Hi everyone,
This seems to be an ever-returning-problem and it finally happens to me… I installed Leopard on my MBP and the Ctrl-Esc shortcut does not work. Is there any voodoo which would solve this issue ?
Thanks in advance.
On Nov 10, 2007, at 8:05 PM, guerom00 wrote:
Hi everyone,
This seems to be an ever-returning-problem and it finally happens to me… I installed Leopard on my MBP and the Ctrl-Esc shortcut does not work. Is there any voodoo which would solve this issue ?
Thanks in advance.
I hate to "me too" post, but… me too.
ctrl-esc has been so flakey for me for the longest time that I rarely even remember that it's _supposed_ to work. I would LOVE to be able to use it.
—Thomas Aylott – subtleGradient—
Well, I used it all the time on Tiger… I'm a little bit lost now :-D
On 11 Nov 2007, at 02:14, Thomas Aylott - subtleGradient wrote:
On Nov 10, 2007, at 8:05 PM, guerom00 wrote:
Hi everyone,
This seems to be an ever-returning-problem and it finally happens to me… I installed Leopard on my MBP and the Ctrl-Esc shortcut does not work. Is there any voodoo which would solve this issue ?
Thanks in advance.
I hate to "me too" post, but… me too.
"Not me" posts are even worst but:
In Tiger, Ctrl-Esc never worked for me (someone found Apple Remote Desktop was the culprit) but it's working fine in Leopard...
-- FredB
Isn;t there somehwere a little program that can detect wich key is in wich (active started) program (global in osx) so you can see wich program used what key-combo.? Something like the list in TM.
Regards J.
On Nov 11, 2007, at 03:11 , Fred B wrote:
"Not me" posts are even worst but:
In Tiger, Ctrl-Esc never worked for me (someone found Apple Remote Desktop was the culprit) but it's working fine in Leopard...
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I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure no other apps uses this shortcut…
Is there someone on the list who has a MBP running Leopard and for whom it works ?
Yes. Just tried it out.
Greetings, Florian Gilcher
On Nov 11, 2007, at 11:50 AM, guerom00 wrote:
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure no other apps uses this shortcut…
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I'm still new to TM, but on my MBP CTRL-Esc opens the bundle-menu. So guess it's working. Didn't know about this shortcut, thanks for mentioning it!
I'm not using Apple Remote Desktop though.
guerom00 wrote:
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure no other apps uses this shortcut…
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Ctrl-Esc brings up the list of the language i;m working in. i'm working on MPB 2.33 btw.
Regards J.
On Nov 11, 2007, at 11:50 , guerom00 wrote:
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure no other apps uses this shortcut…
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On 11 Nov 2007, at 11:50, guerom00 wrote:
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure no other apps uses this shortcut…
Is there someone on the list who has a MBP running Leopard and for whom it works ?
All proofs brought up in the past (and this topic has resurfaced a lot) points to the key being eaten by Apple’s Remote Desktop.
Go to System Preferences → Sharing and see if it is enabled (in Leopard it is called Remote Management), if so, disable it.
If not, then see http://wiki.macromates.com/Troubleshooting/KeyBindings
On my MBP 2.2 it sounds the systembell. Checked the text-to-speech key: it was set to Ctrl-Esc. Changed it to ctrl-shift-esc. Now Ctrl-Esc does work in TM.
On 11/11/07, Jasper van der Meulen jasper@logt.nu wrote:
Ctrl-Esc brings up the list of the language i;m working in. i'm working on MPB 2.33 btw.
Regards J.
On Nov 11, 2007, at 11:50 , guerom00 wrote:
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure no other apps uses this shortcut…
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On Nov 11, 2007, at 12:16 PM, Allan Odgaard wrote:
On 11 Nov 2007, at 11:50, guerom00 wrote:
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure no other apps uses this shortcut…
Is there someone on the list who has a MBP running Leopard and for whom it works ?
All proofs brought up in the past (and this topic has resurfaced a lot) points to the key being eaten by Apple’s Remote Desktop.
Go to System Preferences → Sharing and see if it is enabled (in Leopard it is called Remote Management), if so, disable it.
If not, then see http://wiki.macromates.com/Troubleshooting/ KeyBindings
In my case ctrl+esc doesn't work and remote management is not enabled. But testing just something reveals that "screen sharing" will eat ctrl +esc as well.
Niels
Ah yes… Screen sharing was the culprit. After disabling it, Ctrl-Esc is back. Thanks. That's a shame : I would like to use Screen Sharing :-((
On Nov 11, 2007, at 12:32 PM, guerom00 wrote:
Ah yes… Screen sharing was the culprit. After disabling it, Ctrl-Esc is back. Thanks. That's a shame : I would like to use Screen Sharing :-((
Switch it only on when you need it (usually you communicate with the people you use screen sharing with, don't you?) - like every other service. If it runs it's a potential security hole…
Niels
On Nov 11, 2007, at 2:50 AM, guerom00 wrote:
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure no other apps uses this shortcut…
Is there someone on the list who has a MBP running Leopard and for whom it works ?
It works for me (MBPro/Leopard/latest textmate). Assuming that you mean ctrl-esc is supposed to bring up the gear menu.
Very Strange.
For the longest time, this has never worked for me: so long ago I just gave up trying to use it. I am *not* using Apple Remote Desktop. Switching to a newly created user *did* allow this to work, so apparently it was SOMEthing about my main user setup that was the problem. I've never had the patience to try to figure out what it was though.
Just now however, I tried the keystroke and... Oh My Goodness, It Works!! Still running OS X 10.4.10. TextMate is 1.5.7 (1436).
It *would* be really neat if there were some sort of "utility" that could answer the question "Who Ate That Keystroke?" ;)
eo
On Nov 11, 2007, at 3:16 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:
On 11 Nov 2007, at 11:50, guerom00 wrote:
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure no other apps uses this shortcut…
Is there someone on the list who has a MBP running Leopard and for whom it works ?
All proofs brought up in the past (and this topic has resurfaced a lot) points to the key being eaten by Apple’s Remote Desktop.
Go to System Preferences → Sharing and see if it is enabled (in Leopard it is called Remote Management), if so, disable it.
If not, then see http://wiki.macromates.com/Troubleshooting/ KeyBindings
Yeah!
Shortly after I wrote the note below, I notice that one of my favorite utility gadgets was no longer running (who knows why).
Later, I pondered... Gee, could it be THAT that has been eating my homework... er, eating my Crtl-Esc keystrokes??
The utility in question is "X-Assist" <http://members.ozemail.com.au/ ~pli/x-assist/>. Free. Last updated, apparently, in 2003 (!) Among other things, it re-creates the "Application Menu" found at the far right end of the menubar under OS 9.
I LOVE IT!
ALSO, it allows you to toggle what happens when you click on any window of an application. In OS 9, clicking on any window of an application would bring ALL windows of the application to the front. In OSX, only the particular window you click will come to the front. All very nice, but X-Assist also provide a handy keystroke to toggle between these behaviors. And the keystroke is... Guess what?
CONTROL + ESCAPE !
There is very little documentation with the program, but in "X-Assist Preferences," under "OS9 Window Behavior" is an option "Enable Smart Windows by Default" and below that "Enable Control-ESC." [I believe "Smart Windows" behavior may mean "OS9 behavior"]
If you have X-Assist running and you press the keys Ctrl+Esc, a checkbox will appear (or disappear) next to the X-Assist menu item "Toggle Windows Mode."
And indeed the window behavior changes.
But if you weren't specifically looking for this, it would certainly appear that NOTHING had happened when your pressed Control + Esc.
HAH! Here is the dog that has been eating my homework!! UN check "Enable Control+Esc" then restart (or maybe log off/on is sufficient, I didn't check) and the keystroke again works as advertised in TextMate. Wheee!
This discovery solved my problem/mystery, but it leaves open the problem of determining what application consumed (ate) a particular keystroke. I would have been done with this MONTHS ago, if only there existed some sort of OS tool I could have run that might have left a note in a log to the effect of "Control + Escape: X-Assist accepted and consumed this keystroke."
BAH!
eo
On Nov 11, 2007, at 10:34 PM, Eric O'Brien wrote:
Very Strange.
For the longest time, this has never worked for me: so long ago I just gave up trying to use it. I am *not* using Apple Remote Desktop. Switching to a newly created user *did* allow this to work, so apparently it was SOMEthing about my main user setup that was the problem. I've never had the patience to try to figure out what it was though.
Just now however, I tried the keystroke and... Oh My Goodness, It Works!! Still running OS X 10.4.10. TextMate is 1.5.7 (1436).
It *would* be really neat if there were some sort of "utility" that could answer the question "Who Ate That Keystroke?" ;)
eo
On Nov 11, 2007, at 3:16 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:
On 11 Nov 2007, at 11:50, guerom00 wrote:
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure no other apps uses this shortcut…
Is there someone on the list who has a MBP running Leopard and for whom it works ?
All proofs brought up in the past (and this topic has resurfaced a lot) points to the key being eaten by Apple’s Remote Desktop.
Go to System Preferences → Sharing and see if it is enabled (in Leopard it is called Remote Management), if so, disable it.
If not, then see http://wiki.macromates.com/Troubleshooting/ KeyBindings
For new threads USE THIS: textmate@lists.macromates.com (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
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