observe my penitent respect for threading!
While we're on the topic of drawers & fullscreeniness ...
Any chance the editor could have a 'full screen' mode (ie, completely fullscreen like Firefox [F11 IIRC])?
keybound to something accessible, this would be really swanky. Not sure what would be done about the drawer in this case, but if you think fullscreen mode would be a good feature (Allan), it might have some impact on what you intend to do with the drawer.
Combined with splits and some way to preview server-side html output from within TextMate (am i missing something that exists?) I'd only have to leave TextMate to procrastinate and bathe.
cheers
D
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I dunno... I sorta favor ditching the drawer. :-) More often than not, I like my text editor to be somewhat full-screen... drawers have a way of making that really not work... I feel like a sidebar approach would be more practical. In fact, if the world were ideal and bloat wasn't a factor, I rather like the way jEdit docks stuff to the left, right, and bottom... it's rather handy for keeping tools like an XPath tester, Ant task manager, and other tools easily accessible, yet unobtrusively minimized when not in use. Best, jL On Apr 5, 2005, at 8:27 PM, Steve Lianoglou wrote: > Allan Odgaard wrote: >>> I don't hate the drawer, I'm just saying, that's the one thing I
find to be annoying. >> When I revisit the project window I'll allow for
double-clicking >> groups to "descend" into these. That should cut down on leading >> indent. > > Ohh .. a little 'hoisting' action like what you're talking about would > be pretty sweet. > > > cheers, > -steve -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE
On 6 Apr 2005, at 04:29, David Lee wrote:
observe my penitent respect for threading!
My turn to say thank you ;-)
While we're on the topic of drawers & fullscreeniness ... Any chance the editor could have a 'full screen' mode (ie, completely fullscreen like Firefox [F11 IIRC])?
This is sort of already possible, although I agree that it could be improved further. The way it works is like this: 1. In project drawer ctrl-click on a file and choose "Open <filename> in a New Window" 2. Once opened in new window, click the green (maximize) widget in the window bar, and behold the magic of a full screen window.
After that I use Cmd + [plus] (on numeric keypad) to increase the font size in the doc and then lean right back in my comfy armchair with my BT keyboard. Blissful coding, if I may say so. ;-)
Kind regards,
Mats
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thanks Mats
for some reason i thought maximize only worked vertically ..
knowing now that it doesn't, a keybinding to toggle maximized would be fine - is this somehow possible already with SysPrefs / anything?
cheers
D
On 06/04/2005, at 6:10 PM, Mats Persson wrote:
On 6 Apr 2005, at 04:29, David Lee wrote:
observe my penitent respect for threading!
My turn to say thank you ;-)
While we're on the topic of drawers & fullscreeniness ... Any chance the editor could have a 'full screen' mode (ie, completely fullscreen like Firefox [F11 IIRC])?
This is sort of already possible, although I agree that it could be improved further. The way it works is like this:
- In project drawer ctrl-click on a file and choose "Open <filename>
in a New Window" 2. Once opened in new window, click the green (maximize) widget in the window bar, and behold the magic of a full screen window.
After that I use Cmd + [plus] (on numeric keypad) to increase the font size in the doc and then lean right back in my comfy armchair with my BT keyboard. Blissful coding, if I may say so. ;-)
Kind regards,
Mats
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
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nevermind. I've bound 'Zoom' to F11 and I'm pleased as punch.
feature request retracted
D
On 06/04/2005, at 6:59 PM, David Lee wrote:
thanks Mats
for some reason i thought maximize only worked vertically ..
knowing now that it doesn't, a keybinding to toggle maximized would be fine - is this somehow possible already with SysPrefs / anything?
cheers
D
On 06/04/2005, at 6:10 PM, Mats Persson wrote:
On 6 Apr 2005, at 04:29, David Lee wrote:
observe my penitent respect for threading!
My turn to say thank you ;-)
While we're on the topic of drawers & fullscreeniness ... Any chance the editor could have a 'full screen' mode (ie, completely fullscreen like Firefox [F11 IIRC])?
This is sort of already possible, although I agree that it could be improved further. The way it works is like this:
- In project drawer ctrl-click on a file and choose "Open <filename>
in a New Window" 2. Once opened in new window, click the green (maximize) widget in the window bar, and behold the magic of a full screen window.
After that I use Cmd + [plus] (on numeric keypad) to increase the font size in the doc and then lean right back in my comfy armchair with my BT keyboard. Blissful coding, if I may say so. ;-)
Kind regards,
Mats
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
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For new threads USE THIS: textmate@lists.macromates.com (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
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David Lee wrote:
nevermind. I've bound 'Zoom' to F11 and I'm pleased as punch.
feature request retracted
A comment on this. (I think I mentioned this previously, but it may have been off-list.)
Using up *all* available screen space is not precisely the attraction of full screen mode (at least not for me), rather, it is the fact that it could enable you to increase your font size *and* get maximum available vertical space (no menu bar, no dock, no window bounds) *and* retain your soft-wrapping width, *but not* have all of this on the extreme left edge of the screen. IOW, it could employ a kind of central positioning of the text where, if you e.g. had line wrapping at 80 chars, the left edge of your text would start (roughly speaking) 40 Chars to the left of the centre.
mark.
Once split views arrive, fullscreen mode will come into it's own - I know from experience ;)
## aside:
At that time, maybe it could be a preference option to set Zoom = splits enabled, unZoom = active pane only. The idea is that fullscreen, you have your nicely partitioned workspace; small, you have something workable with other applications.
That's Just an Idea, and one I'm not yet attached to.
The point is that for splits and Zoom to play nice some thought should to go into what happens to splits when Zoom is toggled. Are the splits proportional to the window dimensions? A fixed number of chars from the edge? If so, what if they go offscreen? Maybe Allan's already thought this through completely, who knows ...
## back on track
I don't really see the appeal (for me) of the scale-on-Zoom you're describing. I like my font a hard-aliased scrawl no bigger than is necessary for the characters to be distinct - regardless of window size. My opinion only.
Haven't formed a strong opinion on the 'kind of central positioning of the text' idea, except that having the drawer open before Zoom means the text LHS is not banged up against the edge of the screen - and that if Allan implemented the idea outlined above you could hack it up yourself with blank vertical panes ;)
enough blah
D
PS - Having recently set F11 to Zoom for every application, I'm finding it really useful where it's supported. Try it !
On 06/04/2005, at 9:28 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
David Lee wrote:
nevermind. I've bound 'Zoom' to F11 and I'm pleased as punch.
feature request retracted
A comment on this. (I think I mentioned this previously, but it may have been off-list.)
Using up *all* available screen space is not precisely the attraction of full screen mode (at least not for me), rather, it is the fact that it could enable you to increase your font size *and* get maximum available vertical space (no menu bar, no dock, no window bounds) *and* retain your soft-wrapping width, *but not* have all of this on the extreme left edge of the screen. IOW, it could employ a kind of central positioning of the text where, if you e.g. had line wrapping at 80 chars, the left edge of your text would start (roughly speaking) 40 Chars to the left of the centre.
mark.
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