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Today's Topics:

  1.  Re: TM2 (Adam Strzelecki)
  2.  Re: TM2 (Watts Martin)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:25:04 +0200
From: Adam Strzelecki <ono@java.pl>
Subject: [TxMt] Re: TM2
To: TextMate users <textmate@lists.macromates.com>
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I love TM that I have, but I would be lying if I didn't say I didn't poke around the other editors whenever a ugly bug rears its head and pisses me off.

That's it. I neither need to have new shiny TM2, but want some bugfixes (Parsing improvement for long lines) and minor features requested long time ago (Soft-wrap indention). But the fact nothing is actually happening with TM1, and long standing requests makes me peek around once for a while for alternative editor.
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Adam

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:33:39 -0700
From: Watts Martin <layotl@gmail.com>
Subject: [TxMt] Re: TM2
To: TextMate users <textmate@lists.macromates.com>
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Adam Strzelecki <ono@java.pl> wrote:

That's it. I neither need to have new shiny TM2, but want some bugfixes

(Parsing improvement for long lines) and minor features requested long time

ago (Soft-wrap indention).

TextMate 1.5 is a great editor, but it's remained fundamentally the same for
several years now. There are weird little bugs in TM that aren't  being
addressed (the "save a new file at the root directory" one, for instance),
some useful features TM has never had (pane splitting) and some things that
TM has just never done well at (handling large files and having many files
open at once--both things that the old fogey of the Mac editing world,
BBEdit, ironically handles really well). And other editors... well, aren't
standing still. It's pretty clear that both Coda and Espresso are tacitly
courting TextMate users, and I expect Coda 2.0 to be a really serious
contender.

I'm quite aware Allan doesn't have any interest in hearing "Dude, you gotta
do this faster" any more," and that he still feels somewhat burned about the
bad reaction TextMate 1.0 got in a lot of quarters. And, yeah, a buggy TM2
public beta does risk a bit of that. On the flip side, though, there's a
solid TM1 release that people can be pointed to, which wasn't the case the
first time through: it's a lot safer now, in terms of perception, to let the
public beta be a public beta. More importantly, it would give the TM
community an opportunity to start working on new bundles that TM2's final
release would have available right out of the starting gate.

Okay, I'll stop now. :)
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