From fauzzo@email.it Tue Sep 15 13:59:37 2009
From: Fabio <fauzzo@email.it>
To: textmate@lists.macromates.com
Subject: [TxMt]  Re: How to do basic things with files and project 	drawer
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:59:34 +0200
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Thanks for the reply, please see comments below:

>> 1. New Project
>>
>> [...]
>> The question: is there any way to have the paths set from my "root"
>> element?
>> For example if I drag an image that is placed into /myroot/img/ the
>> html file that gets it uses a src link like "../../img/image.gif". Is
>> it possible to have "/img/image.gif" instead?
>
> I do not quite understand. But if you drag eg an image from the =20
> drawer/
> Finder to an HTML document TextMate will insert the relative path seen
> from that HTML document, this ensures that the HTML doc can see the
> image file later on.

I mean that I usually prefer to set all my image paths to something =20
like "/img/file_name.gif" instead of TM way: "../../img/file =20
name.gif", they both normally work yes, but when you are using apache =20
mod_rewrite or when, later, you want to move the file somewhere in =20
other directories, by using default TM path you should address all =20
paths to the new location (or mod_rewrite path).
By using the "absolute relative path" like "/img/image.gif" the image =20
will always work even if you move the file into a directory like:

test/small_files/long/path/myhtml_file.html

or

/short_path/myhtml_file.html


>> 2. Project Drawer and new files in project
>>
>> How can I create a new file or duplicate an existing one?
>
> If you did select the file in question simply press ??S (Save As)
> to duplicate it.

That is what I usually do, but with the problem that Project Drawer is =20
not correctly updated: the old file disappears from PD tree.
I have to restart TM to see it again. It is always there anyway, it =20
seems to be only a display problem of TM project drawer.

For Exemple, if open a file called "menu.html" that is placed inside /=20
models/menu.html, and then I choose "Save As..." and select /test.html =20
as the new saving location and name, Project Drawer will show me a =20
file called "test.html" placed into /models and no file in the project =20
root.

I have to close TM and restart it to see files where they really are. =20
Do you confirm?


>> 3. While I editing CSS or HTML files, sometimes I need the color
>> chooser, the default keys CTRL + SHIFT + C do not open it. That keys
>> seems to be used by the default Math bundle. Is the solution to
>> manually change such keys in Math bundle? Why TM provides such
>> overlapping keys?
>
> TextMate doesn't listen on the ?^C, thus deleting that short-cut in
> the Math bundle won't work.
>
> If you're inside a CSS doc or inside a CSS scope (ie if your caret in
> inside of "<style type=3D"text/css">?</script> of an HTML file) press
> ??C. From others ^? > CSS > Insert Color?

correct, but when I have an open file like could be "test.css" and CSS =20
language is associated to such file, if I am creating a rule and I hit =20
[ CTRL + SHIFT + C ] why it does not open color picker but Math bundle =20
instead?

The same happens when I am inside a .html file and the caret is placed =20
into tags:

<style type=3D"text/css" media=3D"screen">
	color:
</style>


> 4. A little "bug" with file tabs
>
> In addition ^?R will select the current doc in the drawer.
>
> If you need your own way to display the name simply create a new
> tmcommand in the bundle editor:
> Input: Discard:
> Output: Show as Tooltip
> Command:
> echo "$TM_FILEPATH"
>
> and bind it to any short-cut.

that is ok, but is always a patch to the wrong (in my opinion) =20
behaviour of TM with not visible tabs.
In DW CS3 for example, active tab is always displayed in tabs list. In =20
TM you need to see tab even if you want o drag the file tab near to =20
another for faster select. But you can't do that at the moment.


>> And I don't understand where TM places the new file if no
>> directory is selected.
>
> If you press ??N (New File) you will see a dialog with a field
> called ?Location?. This will be the place you're looking for.

correct, but like before Project Drawer tree seems buggy:

If I create a new file with SHIFT + CMD + N, and I set location to "/=20
models" and file name to "test.html", sometimes I see the new file =20
placed at the end of the list at the same level of the project root. =20
Sometimes I will see the file twice: once inside "models" directory =20
and also at the end of the list, out of models directory.
If I restart TM, the files listing in project drawer remains the same =20
(double file) and I cannot understand why.
If I want to delete it, I have to delete both files from Project Drawer.
In the finder the file is placed correctly, but again there is a =20
problem with PD tree.

That is very strange and is confusing me.

Thanks for the help!


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Fabio



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From bibiko@eva.mpg.de Tue Sep 15 15:03:51 2009
From: =?utf-8?q?Hans-J=C3=B6rg?= Bibiko <bibiko@eva.mpg.de>
To: textmate@lists.macromates.com
Subject: [TxMt] Re: How to do basic things with files and project 	drawer
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:03:43 +0200
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On 15.09.2009, at 15:59, Fabio wrote:
>>> 1. New Project
>>>
>>> [...]
>>> The question: is there any way to have the paths set from my "root"
>>> element?
>>> For example if I drag an image that is placed into /myroot/img/ the
>>> html file that gets it uses a src link like "../../img/image.gif".  
>>> Is
>>> it possible to have "/img/image.gif" instead?
>
> [...] By using the "absolute relative path" like "/img/image.gif"  
> the image
> will always work even if you move the file into a directory like:
>
> test/small_files/long/path/myhtml_file.html
>
> or
>
> /short_path/myhtml_file.html

OK, then you can duplicate the HTML bundle drag command "Insert Image  
With Dimension" and rewrite it to your need. (Please have a look at  
manual chapter 11 'Drag Commands')

>>> 2. Project Drawer and new files in project
>>>
>>> How can I create a new file or duplicate an existing one?
>>
>> If you did select the file in question simply press ??S (Save As)
>> to duplicate it.
>
> That is what I usually do, but with the problem that Project Drawer is
> not correctly updated: the old file disappears from PD tree.
> I have to restart TM to see it again. It is always there anyway, it
> seems to be only a display problem of TM project drawer.
Yes, this is known issue, but there's no need to restart TM. Simply  
activate any other app like the Finder and re-activate TM. This can be  
done automatically via AppleScript eg; or one could write a command  
which duplicates the selected file, set the focus to Finder, set focus  
to TM.

>>> 3. While I editing CSS or HTML files, sometimes I need the color
>>> chooser, the default keys CTRL + SHIFT + C do not open it. That keys
>>> seems to be used by the default Math bundle. Is the solution to
>>> manually change such keys in Math bundle? Why TM provides such
>>> overlapping keys?
>>
> [...]
> correct, but when I have an open file like could be "test.css" and CSS
> language is associated to such file, if I am creating a rule and I hit
> [ CTRL + SHIFT + C ] why it does not open color picker but Math bundle
> instead?

NOT: CTRL + SHIFT + C! Please use SHIFT+APPLE+C instead.
As I said TM doesn't listen to CTRL + SHIFT + C.


>> 4. A little "bug" with file tabs
>>
>> In addition ^?R will select the current doc in the drawer.
>>
> [...]
> that is ok, but is always a patch to the wrong (in my opinion)
> behaviour of TM with not visible tabs.

By myself I seldom click on a tab to select a file. Instead I'm using  
the short-cut APPLE+1..9 for selecting one of the nine tabs (have a  
look at Main Menu > Navigation > Go to Tab) and the title bar tells me  
the current file name I'm working on.
And more often I'm using APPLE+T "Go to file".


>
>>> And I don't understand where TM places the new file if no
>>> directory is selected.
>>
>> If you press ??N (New File) you will see a dialog with a field
>> called ?Location?. This will be the place you're looking for.
>
> correct, but like before Project Drawer tree seems buggy:
>
> If I create a new file with SHIFT + CMD + N, and I set location to "/
> models" and file name to "test.html", sometimes I see the new file
> placed at the end of the list at the same level of the project root.
> Sometimes I will see the file twice: once inside "models" directory
> and also at the end of the list, out of models directory.
Hmm, never did that before - by  myself I select the folder before I  
create a new file - but I could reproduce it. I got a "ghost file" of  
the same name if I chose an other folder. weird.


Ciao,

--Hans


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