<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap:break-word"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">Thanks for the answers. What all is happening here is still a mystery but I’ve got an update;</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">I’ve now had 24 hours without incident. My current theory is this relates to SCM Diff Gutter, as after disabling it I haven’t seen the issue, but thats just a theory. I’m re-enabling Emmet today, and I’ll add my linters tomorrow.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">Ed, do you have SCM Diff Gutter, or anything adding icons to your gutter?</div> <br> <div id="bloop_sign_1487105642296838144" class="bloop_sign"><div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px">Thanks,</div><div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px"><br>Graham Heath<br><br></div></div> <br><p class="airmail_on">On February 10, 2017 at 9:08:03 PM, Ed Wong (<a href="mailto:scampy@me.com">scampy@me.com</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div></div><div>
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<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px">1:
have more than a few TextMate windows or tabs open?</div>
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<div class="">Usually many windows with many tabs. Some windows are
minimized (those that I’m not actively working on at the
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have a customized window bar title?</div>
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Yes - full document path.
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<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px">3:
have expensive to render documents?</div>
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<div class="">A few files with > 5000 lines but generally <
1500 lines of PHP, ObjC, HTML, JS or CSS. Some customizations done
to PHP bundle and Mac Classic theme.</div>
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<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px">4:
SCM integration?</div>
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<div class="">On Feb 10, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Graham Heath
<<a href="mailto:graham.p.heath@gmail.com" class="">graham.p.heath@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">This continues to happen to me a few times a day,
exclusively in TextMate. Some days are worse, maybe better after a
reboot, but thats not for sure.</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class=""><br class=""></div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">Some more theories for you Ed, and anyone else :)</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class=""><br class=""></div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">Do you …</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">1: have more than a few TextMate windows or tabs
open?</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">2: have a customized window bar title?</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">3: have expensive to render documents?</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">4: SCM integration?</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class=""><br class=""></div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class=""><br class=""></div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">Here’s what I’m thinking _might_ be happening for each of
these. Hopefully one of these sparkles for someone.</div>
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<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">1) TM is confused about what tab / window should have
focus, and fails to pick one.</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">2) I have a pretty complex stack of replacements to build
my window title, perhaps one of these replacements has a edge case
that causes an error</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">3) TM may be selecting the right tab, but the selection
doesn’t happen in a reasonable time and aborts</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">4) The timing between focus and TM failing to select a tab
seems related to when the title bar updates when SCM is
working</div>
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<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">I’ve been experimenting with disabling plugins and add
ons. Today I’m going to try disabling the SCM plugin :( </div>
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<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" class="">If that doesn’t work I guess I’ll build TM and see what I
can find. Short of building it, there’s not a way better debug this
issue, is there?</div>
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<div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px" class="">Thanks,</div>
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On February 1, 2017 at 7:05:23 AM, Ed Wong (<a href="mailto:scampy@me.com" class="">scampy@me.com</a>) wrote:</p>
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<div class=""><span class="">Hi Graham,</span>
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<div class=""><span class="">My TM setup is pretty basic. No
plug-ins, Shell Support installed, Git support sometimes depending
on the project. </span></div>
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<div class=""><span class="">I think Allan may be right though as
I’ve seen this behaviour with Safari and Finder as well so it could
be an general OS issue.</span></div>
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<div class=""><span class="">On Jan 31, 2017, at 10:23 PM, Graham
Heath <<a href="mailto:graham.p.heath@gmail.com" class="">graham.p.heath@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div>
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<span class="">Allan, I’m sorry to say, that this is behavior that
I associate with TextMate, not the os at large. I will keep an eye
out for it and let you know if I change my mind. But, as you’ll see
below, I don’t really blame your code either, I’m just wondering
whats causing it. Its so erratic that its probably not something
simple.</span></div>
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<span class="">Jacob, Ed, and others; Do you have any plugins? I
haven’t done the full reset, but I have disabled things that I feel
might be offending. Its too early to say, but I wonder if a plugin
might be triggering when the app gets focus, but something isn’t
going quite right.</span></div>
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<span class="">Tossing this on the pile; I’m using a early 2013 mbp
that does seem to have issues with apps hanging or freezing fairly
often, so maybe whatever’s causing that, is causing
this.</span></div>
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<span class="">On January 14, 2017 at 11:44:42 PM, Allan Odgaard
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<div class=""><span class=""><span class="">On 14 Jan 2017, at
5:54, Graham Heath wrote:<br class="">
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> I’m regularly experiencing a bug where TextMate seems to
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> focus. The title bar will appear to be selected, but the tabs
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This issue has existed with macOS for as long as I can remember,
and I<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
have seen it for other apps as well, though it is visually much
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obvious with TextMate because of the tabs bleeding into the title
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I do not think the issue is with any of my code, since window
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is not the responsibility of the individual app and I am not aware
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