<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div id="bloop_customfont" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;">1: have more than a few TextMate windows or tabs open?</div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Usually many windows with many tabs. Some windows are minimized (those that I’m not actively working on at the moment).</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div id="bloop_customfont" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;">2: have a customized window bar title?</div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>Yes - full document path.<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div id="bloop_customfont" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;">3: have expensive to render documents?</div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A few files with > 5000 lines but generally < 1500 lines of PHP, ObjC, HTML, JS or CSS. Some customizations done to PHP bundle and Mac Classic theme.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div id="bloop_customfont" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;">4: SCM integration?</div></blockquote><div class=""><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;"><br class=""></div></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;">Git on some projects.</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;">Hope this helps.</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;">Ed</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 10, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Graham Heath <<a href="mailto:graham.p.heath@gmail.com" class="">graham.p.heath@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">This continues to happen to me a few times a day, exclusively in TextMate. Some days are worse, maybe better after a reboot, but thats not for sure.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">Some more theories for you Ed, and anyone else :)</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">Do you …</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">1: have more than a few TextMate windows or tabs open?</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">2: have a customized window bar title?</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">3: have expensive to render documents?</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">4: SCM integration?</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">Here’s what I’m thinking _might_ be happening for each of these. Hopefully one of these sparkles for someone.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">1) TM is confused about what tab / window should have focus, and fails to pick one.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">2) I have a pretty complex stack of replacements to build my window title, perhaps one of these replacements has a edge case that causes an error</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">3) TM may be selecting the right tab, but the selection doesn’t happen in a reasonable time and aborts</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">4) The timing between focus and TM failing to select a tab seems related to when the title bar updates when SCM is working</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">I’ve been experimenting with disabling plugins and add ons. Today I’m going to try disabling the SCM plugin :( </div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">If that doesn’t work I guess I’ll build TM and see what I can find. Short of building it, there’s not a way better debug this issue, is there?</div><br style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div id="bloop_sign_1486765449141481984" class="bloop_sign" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="font-family: helvetica, arial; font-size: 13px;" class="">Thanks,</div><div style="font-family: helvetica, arial; font-size: 13px;" class=""><br class="">Graham Heath<br class=""><br class=""></div></div><br style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><p class="airmail_on" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">On February 1, 2017 at 7:05:23 AM, Ed Wong (<a href="mailto:scampy@me.com" class="">scampy@me.com</a>) wrote:</p><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div class=""></div><div class="">Hi Graham,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My TM setup is pretty basic. No plug-ins, Shell Support installed, Git support sometimes depending on the project. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think Allan may be right though as I’ve seen this behaviour with Safari and Finder as well so it could be an general OS issue.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ed</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 31, 2017, at 10:23 PM, Graham Heath <<a href="mailto:graham.p.heath@gmail.com" class="">graham.p.heath@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="bloop_customfont" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; margin: 0px;">Allan, I’m sorry to say, that this is behavior that I associate with TextMate, not the os at large. I will keep an eye out for it and let you know if I change my mind. But, as you’ll see below, I don’t really blame your code either, I’m just wondering whats causing it. Its so erratic that its probably not something simple.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div id="bloop_customfont" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; margin: 0px;">Jacob, Ed, and others; Do you have any plugins? I haven’t done the full reset, but I have disabled things that I feel might be offending. Its too early to say, but I wonder if a plugin might be triggering when the app gets focus, but something isn’t going quite right.</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">Tossing this on the pile; I’m using a early 2013 mbp that does seem to have issues with apps hanging or freezing fairly often, so maybe whatever’s causing that, is causing this.</div><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div id="bloop_sign_1485919061840937216" class="bloop_sign" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class="" style="font-family: helvetica, arial; font-size: 13px;">Thanks,</div><div class="" style="font-family: helvetica, arial; font-size: 13px;"><br class="">Graham Heath<br class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><p class="airmail_on" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">On January 14, 2017 at 11:44:42 PM, Allan Odgaard (<a href="mailto:mailinglist@textmate.org" class="">mailinglist@textmate.org</a>) wrote:</p><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class=""><div class=""></div><div class=""><span class="">On 14 Jan 2017, at 5:54, Graham Heath wrote:<br class=""><br class="">> I’m regularly experiencing a bug where TextMate seems to receive<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> partial<br class="">> focus. The title bar will appear to be selected, but the tabs never<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> come<br class="">> into focus […]<br class=""><br class="">This issue has existed with macOS for as long as I can remember, and I<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">have seen it for other apps as well, though it is visually much more<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">obvious with TextMate because of the tabs bleeding into the title bar.<br class=""><br class="">I do not think the issue is with any of my code, since window management<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">is not the responsibility of the individual app and I am not aware of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">code in TextMate that could affect this.<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">textmate mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com" class="">textmate@lists.macromates.com</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate" class="">http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate</a></span></div></div></blockquote><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">_______________________________________________</span><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">textmate mailing list</span><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><a href="mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">textmate@lists.macromates.com</a><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><a href="http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div><br class="">_______________________________________________<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">textmate mailing list<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><a href="mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com" class="">textmate@lists.macromates.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><a href="http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate" class="">http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate</a></div></div></span></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>