<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">You can change the delay for press and hold by changing the key repeat values in system preferences, i got like no delay at all ;-p much faster to type ā ū ë plus you can alter the text that these methods input e.g. you can change press and hold of e to give you a selection of e-mail addresses or other e like symbols e.g. ℰ (can be done manually or with ukulele i think). key repeat itself is useless aaaaaaaaaa should be typed manually or via some editor command like vim/emacs do it e.g. <span style="font-family: Consolas, Menlo, Monaco, 'Lucida Console', 'Liberation Mono', 'DejaVu Sans Mono', 'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono', 'Courier New', monospace, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17.804800033569336px; white-space: pre-wrap; background-color: rgb(238, 238, 238);" class=""><C-o>8ia<Esc></span> though i don’t know whether TextMate 2 has an equivalent to that.</div><div class="">Not having press and hold forces the user to unnecessarily search for an alternative even though a feature which is consistent (or should be) throughout the OS already exists. The method “a is far more annoying than a delay would ever be especially if you type lots of german or other foreign Text. For example on a german keyboard typing “a is a really bad shortcut since one has to press two keys for the “ alone (⇧ + 2 not a nice shortcut for any hand) plus the letter a itself so overall 3 keys where two keys are hand breaking ;-p.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 23 Nov 2014, at 17:22, Carsten Hoever <<a href="mailto:hoever@gmx.de" class="">hoever@gmx.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I assume you are on an english keyboard layout? If so, you might want to consider to activate the "U.S. International - PC" keyboard as input source for OSX. You can write ä,ö,ü as " followed by a/o/e (other accented letters can be created in a similar way) and ß is simply alt+s. Works very smooth and fast for me, I could never go back to a german keyboard layout.<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Press and Hold is far more useful than that and should not be difficult to get working (change of protocol from NSTextInput to NSTextInputClient)<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I strongly disagree, at least if your set of special characters is limited. Both methods need you to do two keyboard actions (accent+letter for US International method, base letter+number for special letter in the press and hold method), but press and hold involves a disturbing time delay. I am much faster with the accent+letter method. For seldom used special characters where one is not sure about the right accent/modifier key the press and hold method is superior, though. The good thing: press and hold also works with the US Intl. keyboard, so you can get the best of both worlds.<br class=""><br class="">/Carsten<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">textmate mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com" class="">textmate@lists.macromates.com</a><br class="">http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>