<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi Allan,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Allan Odgaard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mailinglist@textmate.org" target="_blank">mailinglist@textmate.org</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="im"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> Why has Github issues forum been removed?<br> </blockquote> <br></div> It was not a forum.</blockquote><div><br></div><div style>Allright, maybe I should have said "board", or "reporting system" instead of forum. I thought just calling it "github issues" was a bit weird because it seemed to refer to "issues with github", or some "collection of issues" or so.</div> <div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> previously I was forced to go to <a href="http://github.com" target="_blank">github.com</a> roughly five times a day to assign labels to issues, search for duplicates to properly link them, engage in one-on-one troubleshooting, and for issues that got closed, try to state why it was closed in a way that wouldn’t upset the submitter.<br> </blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>No, you were not. You could easily ignore most of what was posted there, if you wished. It would just made you seem somewhat unresponsive / inaccessible. Removing a place to submit issues to doesn't make the issues go away. Perhaps they are never shared now.</div> <div style><br></div><div style>I don't see how on this mailing list, you should be any less careful on "not to upset" a submitter.</div><div style>Chances are though, that you may receive less feedback you feel you ought to respond too, which may be a good outcome for you. Perhaps, if you feel totally swamped in work, the less communication you get the better. Then any hurdles you set up would be good. Maybe ask people to solve some random crossword before being able to submit an issue or feature suggestion? Then you'll be sure to only get the most pressing ones, or those coming from the most tenacious users. :)</div> <div style><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> Not saying there wasn’t value in the issue tracker, there certainly was, and part of me feels bad for having closed it, but it was just too much of a distraction.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>I guess this is more closer to reality. I guess it could be a distraction. It much depends on how capable you are in "fully" dealing with feedback. Not only responding to it in word, but also fixing the bugs and implementing the feature suggestions (if they make sense).</div> <div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> Long-term it might be back, we may try another issue tracker, or maybe even a forum. But for now, I’ll just focus on development, and I can assure you, despite having closed the issue tracker, there is no scarcity of feedback :)<div class="im"> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> Is there any archive of the discussions in the github issues forum?<br> Currently, all urls currently resolve to 404. :(<br> </blockquote> <br></div> Unfortunately GitHub does not have an option for that.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>I'm sad to hear that. Do you think you can recover the data somehow in the future, or will you just leave at it this? Maybe the "issues board" always has been a sideshow? It wouldn't have occured me to ever check the Textmate mailing list if you wouldn't have removed it. But maybe the discussions contained are truly inconsequential compared to the info on the mailing list. What I do know is that some github issue reports ranked quite high when googling. I think I have found an answer to questions like this multiple times. I do not recall ever stumbling upon threads on this mailing list.</div> <div style><br></div><div style>My preference would be to have the "github issues board" be reinstated. You could add a note in the readme that you might not respond to most issues posted, and that you'll be very aggressive in closing issues. This I fully respect. Generally, I'm very happy that there's active development on Textmate again, and I'm waiting for the time the "alpha" is over (it's stable and functional enough for my purposes..) so I can hand you over some money. :)</div> <div style><br></div><div style>Generally, I think a database with unaddressed (or quickly closed) issue reports is valuable in its own right. For example, a user can then realize he's not alone experiencing a certain issue, or that a feature he/she wishes for is just "not gonna happen", at least not until some kind soul stands up and does it voluntarily.</div> <div style><br></div><div style>Best,</div><div style>Meryn</div></div></div></div>