<meta charset="utf-8"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; "> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">I am sure I am not the only one here who feels that some people, BIGHYPE *hint* and others, need to tone their attitude down. Being an ass, doesn't help anyone.</span></blockquote> <div><br></div><div>@<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Joshua Kehn & @</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Watts Martin:</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">�</span>Let's please keep this list related to helping people with TextMate, not useless ad hominem attacks. �If someone reports a bug, you don't need to say anything unless you can confirm it or say it isn't currently affecting you. �"This bug doesn't bother me much, so keep quiet" is not an acceptable answer, and if you post some advice please be ready to follow it yourself.</div> <meta charset="utf-8"><meta charset="utf-8"><div><br></div><div>That being said, I can confirm that I am not experiencing the clipboard bug. �I can copy rich text from TextEdit and paste it into TextMate, then paste the still-rich text anywhere else I like. �Therefore I'd say that TextMate is NOT screwing up the clipboard so it must be something else. �</div> <div><br></div><div>Cheers!</div><div>Brandon</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:17 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:textmate-request@lists.macromates.com">textmate-request@lists.macromates.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Send textmate mailing list submissions to<br> � � � �<a href="mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com">textmate@lists.macromates.com</a><br> <br> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> � � � �<a href="http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate" target="_blank">http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate</a><br> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> � � � �<a href="mailto:textmate-request@lists.macromates.com">textmate-request@lists.macromates.com</a><br> <br> You can reach the person managing the list at<br> � � � �<a href="mailto:textmate-owner@lists.macromates.com">textmate-owner@lists.macromates.com</a><br> <br> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br> than "Re: Contents of textmate digest..."<br> <br> <br> Today's Topics:<br> <br> � 1. �TM modifies/destroys the contents of the system-wide<br> � � �pasteboard (Mel Brands)<br> � 2. �Re: TM modifies/destroys the contents of the system-wide<br> � � �pasteboard (Joshua Kehn)<br> � 3. �Re: TM modifies/destroys the contents of the system-wide<br> � � �pasteboard (Watts Martin)<br> � 4. �Re: TM modifies/destroys the contents of the system-wide<br> � � �pasteboard (Joshua Kehn)<br> � 5. �Re: TM modifies/destroys the contents of the system-wide<br> � � �pasteboard (Mark Jackson)<br> <br> <br> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 1<br> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:45:49 -0400<br> From: Mel Brands <<a href="mailto:bighype@gmail.com">bighype@gmail.com</a>><br> To: TextMate users <<a href="mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com">textmate@lists.macromates.com</a>><br> Subject: [TxMt] TM modifies/destroys the contents of the system-wide<br> � � � �pasteboard<br> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BANLkTikXDjrjBBkLAcKtG0W5pBbLh6bB-w@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTikXDjrjBBkLAcKtG0W5pBbLh6bB-w@mail.gmail.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br> <br> Hi all,<br> <br> I've come across another serious TM bug :(<br> <br> It appears that TM modifies the contents of the pasteboard without the<br> user doing the ?+c. If you copy a piece of rich text (or text with<br> image data) and you just switch to TM so its window is frontmost and<br> active, TM will go ahead and just strip all rich edit out of text and<br> leave you with just plain text representation. You can verify this if<br> you use any of the pasteboard history viewers. Or say you copy a large<br> number of cells out of Numbers and you inadvertently ?-tab to TM, TM<br> will freeze while it's messing up your pasteboard data.<br> <br> Anyway, modifying system-wide pasteboard without any user input is<br> really bad form. Will this ever be fixed or is MacVim the only<br> solution for now?<br> <br> Mel<br> <br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 2<br> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:47:35 -0400<br> From: Joshua Kehn <<a href="mailto:josh.kehn@gmail.com">josh.kehn@gmail.com</a>><br> To: TextMate users <<a href="mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com">textmate@lists.macromates.com</a>><br> Subject: [TxMt] Re: TM modifies/destroys the contents of the<br> � � � �system-wide pasteboard<br> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:D32113888E05420D95668EB217F51F35@gmail.com">D32113888E05420D95668EB217F51F35@gmail.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br> <br> Never really was one for copying rich text. Causes more hassles then it's worth in my opinion.<br> <br> Regards,<br> <br> -Josh___________________________________________<br> Joshua Kehn | <a href="mailto:Josh.Kehn@gmail.com">Josh.Kehn@gmail.com</a><br> <a href="http://joshuakehn.com" target="_blank">http://joshuakehn.com</a><br> <br> On Tuesday, April 26, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Mel Brands wrote:<br> Hi all,<br> ><br> > I've come across another serious TM bug :(<br> ><br> > It appears that TM modifies the contents of the pasteboard without the<br> > user doing the ?+c. If you copy a piece of rich text (or text with<br> > image data) and you just switch to TM so its window is frontmost and<br> > active, TM will go ahead and just strip all rich edit out of text and<br> > leave you with just plain text representation. You can verify this if<br> > you use any of the pasteboard history viewers. Or say you copy a large<br> > number of cells out of Numbers and you inadvertently ?-tab to TM, TM<br> > will freeze while it's messing up your pasteboard data.<br> ><br> > Anyway, modifying system-wide pasteboard without any user input is<br> > really bad form. Will this ever be fixed or is MacVim the only<br> > solution for now?<br> ><br> > Mel<br> ><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > textmate mailing list<br> > <a href="mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com">textmate@lists.macromates.com</a><br> > <a href="http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate" target="_blank">http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate</a><br> ><br> -------------- next part --------------<br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> URL: <<a href="http://lists.macromates.com/textmate/attachments/20110426/d8f56873/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://lists.macromates.com/textmate/attachments/20110426/d8f56873/attachment-0001.html</a>><br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 3<br> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:58:32 -0700<br> From: Watts Martin <<a href="mailto:layotl@gmail.com">layotl@gmail.com</a>><br> To: TextMate users <<a href="mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com">textmate@lists.macromates.com</a>><br> Subject: [TxMt] Re: TM modifies/destroys the contents of the<br> � � � �system-wide pasteboard<br> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4DB723E8.8080304@gmail.com">4DB723E8.8080304@gmail.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br> <br> <br> Joshua Kehn wrote:<br> > Never really was one for copying rich text. Causes more hassles then<br> > it's worth in my opinion.<br> <br> I'm not sure you're understanding the problem that Mel described.<br> <br> (1) Open a TextEdit document.<br> (2) Add a few lines of text and then style some of them: make one<br> italic, one bold, one a different font, one centered.<br> (3) Copy these lines with Cmd-C or the edit menu.<br> (4) Paste them onto the end of the document just to verify that you get<br> back what you copied, with all the styles.<br> (5) Switch to an open TextMate window. Don't do ANYTHING. Just switch to it.<br> (6) Switch back to TextEdit and hit Cmd-V for paste again.<br> (7) The pasted text will have lost all of its styling.<br> <br> Maybe you have a workflow in which you never, ever, ever copy styled<br> text to the Clipboard and expect it to retain its styles. I don't<br> usually work with styled text, either, but I can't guarantee I never<br> will -- and Mel is absolutely right. TextMate has absolutely no business<br> mucking about with the clipboard when no command that should touch the<br> clipboard is invoked. This may be a bug that few people encounter, but<br> it's a potentially serious one for people who use the clipboard a lot.<br> (And it's one I've just opened a ticket on.)<br> <br> --<br> Watts Martin <<a href="mailto:layotl@gmail.com">layotl@gmail.com</a>><br> <br> -------------- next part --------------<br> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br> Name: smime.p7s<br> Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature<br> Size: 3972 bytes<br> Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature<br> URL: <<a href="http://lists.macromates.com/textmate/attachments/20110426/5b4b41a3/attachment-0001.p7s" target="_blank">http://lists.macromates.com/textmate/attachments/20110426/5b4b41a3/attachment-0001.p7s</a>><br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 4<br> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:01:13 -0400<br> From: Joshua Kehn <<a href="mailto:josh.kehn@gmail.com">josh.kehn@gmail.com</a>><br> To: TextMate users <<a href="mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com">textmate@lists.macromates.com</a>><br> Subject: [TxMt] Re: TM modifies/destroys the contents of the<br> � � � �system-wide pasteboard<br> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:0CB0273B3D104656AD1C76E5F0635CCA@gmail.com">0CB0273B3D104656AD1C76E5F0635CCA@gmail.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br> <br> I understand the problem, I'm saying I don't find copying already formatted text a priority.<br> <br> The fact that it does muck with the clipboard would be an annoyance if you routinely tab through TextMate on your way to pasting RTF copy into another application.<br> <br> Regards,<br> <br> -Josh___________________________________________<br> Joshua Kehn | <a href="mailto:Josh.Kehn@gmail.com">Josh.Kehn@gmail.com</a><br> <a href="http://joshuakehn.com" target="_blank">http://joshuakehn.com</a><br> <br> On Tuesday, April 26, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Watts Martin wrote:<br> <br> > Joshua Kehn wrote:<br> > > Never really was one for copying rich text. Causes more hassles then<br> > > it's worth in my opinion.<br> ><br> > I'm not sure you're understanding the problem that Mel described.<br> ><br> > (1) Open a TextEdit document.<br> > (2) Add a few lines of text and then style some of them: make one<br> > italic, one bold, one a different font, one centered.<br> > (3) Copy these lines with Cmd-C or the edit menu.<br> > (4) Paste them onto the end of the document just to verify that you get<br> > back what you copied, with all the styles.<br> > (5) Switch to an open TextMate window. Don't do ANYTHING. Just switch to it.<br> > (6) Switch back to TextEdit and hit Cmd-V for paste again.<br> > (7) The pasted text will have lost all of its styling.<br> ><br> > Maybe you have a workflow in which you never, ever, ever copy styled<br> > text to the Clipboard and expect it to retain its styles. I don't<br> > usually work with styled text, either, but I can't guarantee I never<br> > will -- and Mel is absolutely right. TextMate has absolutely no business<br> > mucking about with the clipboard when no command that should touch the<br> > clipboard is invoked. This may be a bug that few people encounter, but<br> > it's a potentially serious one for people who use the clipboard a lot.<br> > (And it's one I've just opened a ticket on.)<br> ><br> > --<br> > Watts Martin <<a href="mailto:layotl@gmail.com">layotl@gmail.com</a>><br> ><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > textmate mailing list<br> > <a href="mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com">textmate@lists.macromates.com</a><br> > <a href="http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate" target="_blank">http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate</a><br> ><br> > Attachments:<br> > - smime.p7s<br> ><br> ><br> <br> -------------- next part --------------<br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> URL: <<a href="http://lists.macromates.com/textmate/attachments/20110426/250185f3/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://lists.macromates.com/textmate/attachments/20110426/250185f3/attachment-0001.html</a>><br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 5<br> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:17:43 -0700<br> From: Mark Jackson <<a href="mailto:mrcodewizard@gmail.com">mrcodewizard@gmail.com</a>><br> To: TextMate users <<a href="mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com">textmate@lists.macromates.com</a>><br> Subject: [TxMt] Re: TM modifies/destroys the contents of the<br> � � � �system-wide � � pasteboard<br> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:9EA5700A-7CBC-45C6-B1CE-A474C4135A48@gmail.com">9EA5700A-7CBC-45C6-B1CE-A474C4135A48@gmail.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br> <br> <br> On Apr 26, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Watts Martin wrote:<br> <br> > I'm not sure you're understanding the problem that Mel described<br> <br> If that's true then you should direct your tirade at BIGHYPE for failing to provide basic info to explain/test the alleged bug. Even with your steps to replicate, which may not be what s/he/it did, it still may not be TM's fault.<br> <br> I am tired of the people who automatically assume it's this or that program because of a thin thread of connection. Correlation is not causation. Then come on the list and start thumping their chest about the SERIOUS bug THEY found.<br> <br> I am sure I am not the only one here who feels that some people, BIGHYPE *hint* and others, need to tone their attitude down. Being an ass, doesn't help anyone.<br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> textmate mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com">textmate@lists.macromates.com</a><br> <a href="http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate" target="_blank">http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate</a><br> <br> End of textmate Digest, Vol 35, Issue 31<br> ****************************************<br> </blockquote></div><br>