<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On Aug 7, 2008, at 2:02 AM, <a href="mailto:textmate-request@lists.macromates.com">textmate-request@lists.macromates.com</a> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-monospace; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; ">On Aug 6, 2008, at 11:21 PM, Nick wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">It's kind of funny to me that my two favorite programs by far <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(textmate and quicksilver) have a completely unknown development <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">schedule (although quicksilver's is now dead :[ ). oh well! Theyre <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">both kind of like os x - you can't complain very legitimately about <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">their faults because they're just so much better than the <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">alternatives.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br>Sure you can. Mac OS X users traditionally complain loudly about <br>faults and grievances they find with OS X. You'll rarely find a more <br>critical bunch than aggrieved Mac users. That a piece of software is <br>good does not make it impervious to criticism.<br><br>Someone else brought up MacVim, and it's an interesting point. For a <br>long time, I used Textmate exclusively. But now, I only use Textmate <br>around 50% of the time -- the other half taken up by MacVim, when I <br>need split panes, remote editing, or an editor that will not choke on <br>large text files.<br></span></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>+1 for MacVim; I use it exclusively now.</div><div><br></div><div>I must be one of the few that got TM1 specifically because TM2 was advertised as a free upgrade. I figured I would learn what the editor was all about and be familiar with the basics when the new version came out, I assumed, soon after Leopard.</div><div><br></div><div>Well, that time came and went and there are enough niggling things in TM, particularly with the python bundle (the language I edit the most), that I went searching elsewhere. For me the single most frustrating thing with the python bundle is that you need to add blank lines with spaces to line up the end of a class / def in order for code folding to work. That is not only annoying for me, but other team members as well. A close #2 is also with folding, which breaks if you start function parameters on a new line rather than on the same line, e.g.</div><div><br></div><div>test = some_func(</div><div> param1, param2)</div><div><br></div><div>Perfectly legal, but you need to do this in order to have any hope folding code:</div><div><br></div><div>test = some_func(\</div><div> param1, param2)</div><div><br></div><div>Legal, but annoying, especially working with a team where I don't have control of the entire source's coding style.</div><div><br></div><div>-berto.</div><div><br></div></body></html>