<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On 6-okt-2006, at 0:19, Jacob Rus wrote:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">In general, I'm surprised that there hasn't been more progress on the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">python bundle, given how many people claim to use it.[^1]<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I suppose I'm</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">as guilty for this as anyone.</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#006312">[...]</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">but more about the rest of TM's python users, who undoubtedly have come up with at least a few tricks of their own (I hope?!). :)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I keep getting sidetracked by other random projects (including other TM bundles, work stuff, my own fun things, etc.) but I'd like to figure out some more improvements to the python bundle myself too.</SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>It's a late response, but<DIV>I'd like to apologize for myself :-|<DIV>I guess when I hack away in the Bundle Editor, it is mostly things I just need right now for this specific project, or it is on my Cheetah bundle, I've been toying with privately.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Lucida Grande">[...] Anyway, us TM python users need to start adding useful stuff to the bundle.</FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Lucida Grande"> </FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Lucida Grande">It's hard to think of things, given that the language is pretty low on extraneous baggage, but I'm sure there are places where we can speed ourselves up.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>It's not so hard.</DIV><DIV>And in the light of the discussion started by Bill Bumgarner yesterday [odd pymate output bug], I'd like to add my $0.02.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>For me the three most important feature requests (for the Python bundle and/or Textmate in general) are:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>1. Automatic context-sensitive code-completion</DIV><DIV>Like the smart pop-up window that can be seen in XCode. The exact behavior of the XCode autocompletion isn't always exactly my favorite, e.g. it should (1) learn from completions previously used (sort of how QuickSilver learns from my whims) and (2) it should complete to parts of CamelCased or underscore_seperated_words too (like the file completion in the Terminal works).</DIV><DIV>And since python is really strong in introspection, it could be really smart in the context sensitivity. (Take a look at how ipython completes to see what I mean).</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>2. Jump to the declaration or definition of a method or function with ⌥⌘↑</DIV><DIV>Again, based on the python introspection it should be possible to jump straight to the 'def function_name (args):' line of the .py file where the module is defined, if you find 'function_name' somewhere else in your project, and you want to track back what this function does exactly.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>3. Better (and perhaps online) documentation support.</DIV><DIV>I'm afraid to say, but ^H doesn't work for me the way it should. I think it's great that python comes with so much documentation built in, and I like the colors of the documentation page, but there I am not finding what I am looking for. I always end up using google to find<FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: transparent;"> the method or module in docs.python.org/ref/ or docs.python.org/tut/. Can't we use these under ^H ?</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>best,</DIV><DIV>dirk</DIV></BODY></HTML>