<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><DIV>On Oct 31, 2006, at 5:54 PM, Sean Schertell wrote:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">You're right, adding the shell variable seems to fix things right up. I noticed that the ctl-return shortcut now writes a break tag like this "<br/>" rather than with a space preceding the backslash like this: "<br />" -- slightly off-topic, but is this correct? I thought read somewhere that you need that space for full cross-browser compatibility or something. No?</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>You would want their to be a space before the / in the variable. <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>And I have to admit, while I understand the argument against serving XHTML as text/html (that Allan was alluding to) I don't agree with it. If you code clean XHTML and serve it as text/html and don't do the silly user related mistakes that Ian Hickson brings up then the large majority of his issues with it are quite simply mute. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>You can read Ian Hickson's deal here:</DIV><DIV><A href="http://hixie.ch/advocacy/xhtml">http://hixie.ch/advocacy/xhtml</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Brad Fults has a great response here:</DIV><DIV><A href="http://h3h.net/2005/12/xhtml-harmful-to-feelings/">http://h3h.net/2005/12/xhtml-harmful-to-feelings/</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>And of course the comments on Brad Fults' post are full of people who feel either way. Personally I'm still using XHTML. :)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Jamie</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Email: <A href="mailto:jamie@methnen.com">jamie@methnen.com</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Homepage: <A href="http://www.methnen.com">http://www.methnen.com</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">"And I always go to pieces. <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>And I have it in my mind, that the sky is</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">tall and heavy, when I could be brave."</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-Karen Peris (Brave)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">"I want to find where the maid in the street is pouring her wine,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I heard she takes you in and gives you the words you need said.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If you'll be her brother, she'll kiss you like a sister.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">She'll even be your mother, for now."</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-Matt Slocum (Sister, Mother)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">"And we are drowned."</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-Annie Dillard (Tickets For a Prayer Wheel)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________________________________</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>