<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><DIV>On Jun 8, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Mark Grimes wrote:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">On Jun 8, 2006, at 4:35 AM, thomas Aylott wrote:</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 10px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">On Jun 8, 2006, at 3:48 AM, Luc Heinrich wrote:</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 20px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">On 7 juin 06, at 09:54, Andreas Wahlin wrote:</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 20px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 30px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Such a comprehensive list and not a singel mention of chunk-undo ˆ_ˆ</FONT></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 20px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 20px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Not to mention the braindead block editing zero-column selection. Oh, and the death of that fugly drawer! :)</FONT></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 10px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 10px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">I'm with you on the drawer. It's SO two years ago.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 10px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">I want the files thing to look like the one in mail and iTunes.</FONT></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">If this changes I'd really like to see the drawer continue to be an option.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>NSDrawer is recommended for use when the data contained in them needs to be accessed by not all the time.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Of course this concept fails miserably for Mail particularly since mailboxes are something you hop around all the time.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Personally I almost never access the drawer once I've setup my tab view, and if I need to access a file I use cmd-T.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">FWIW, I don't think this is a aesthetics thing because lacking a drawer increases the amount of horizontal space required out of the editor.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Given the way I prefer to layout my workspace (<A href="http://flickr.com/photos/mgrimes/159783736/">http://flickr.com/photos/mgrimes/159783736/</A>) being forced out of a drawer would force an editor that normally consumes less screen real estate than documentation to no longer be adequately used side-by-side documentation.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Ok. There are advantages and disadvantages to both.</DIV><DIV>Personally, the drawer works perfectly well enough for me. </DIV><DIV>I just don't much like the look of it. Even after I <A href="http://textmate.svn.subtlegradient.com/Hacked%20Nibs!/">hacked the nib files</A>.</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Mark Grimes</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Stateful Labs</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><A href="mailto:mark@stateful.net">mark@stateful.net</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; ">thomas Aylott—</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><B style="font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold; ">subtleGradient</SPAN></SPAN></B></DIV></SPAN><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>