[TxMt] Site Manager Window

Todd Ditchendorf itod at mac.com
Wed Jan 17 21:49:09 UTC 2007


Yeah, I just took a look at skEdit... I take it back... my interest  
in added "site management" features to TM is actually pretty low...  
In fact, I'm having a hard time imagining much of a way to add value  
to what already exists in TM. I like the way I currently use TM 
+Transmit (ftp)+Finder.

That's not to say it's a bad idea or others might want this  
functionality, but I don't think this is for me.

Todd Ditchendorf

Scandalous Software - Mac XML Developer Tools
http://scan.dalo.us



On Jan 17, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Michael Gregoire wrote:

> A site manager does two things.
>
> It keeps track of files. Finder does this.
> It grabs files from a server. An FTP can do this.
>
> You cross the line into WYSIWYG territory when you add hand-holding  
> functionality like this.
>
> My opinion.
>
> Peace
> Mike
>
> On Jan 17, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Greg Smith wrote:
>
>> "I wonder if this is a bit of a slippery slope... WYSIWYG HTML  
>> editing would almost certainly be desired by the web devs who  
>> would be looking for site management features."
>>
>> How does a simple site manager window make it cross the line into  
>> WYSIWYG? I'm missing that part. skEdit has a simple list of  
>> defined working project directories that you choose from on start  
>> up...
>>
>> G
>>
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Todd Ditchendorf wrote:
>>
>>> perhaps this is an opportunity for a plugin? Does anyone have a  
>>> sense of whether a site management palette would be a highly  
>>> desired addition to TextMate? Would an attempt to make textmate  
>>> compete with apps like Dreamweaver make sense? We all know  
>>> textmate's the better text editor... if you could install a  
>>> plugin to add decent site management features...
>>>
>>> I wonder if this is a bit of a slippery slope... WYSIWYG HTML  
>>> editing would almost certainly be desired by the web devs who  
>>> would be looking for site management features. This could be done  
>>> with a TM plugin... something akin to SandVox, perhaps using  
>>> WebKit's contentEditable features. But experience from TeXMLMate  
>>> tells me it would be a bit risky as you'd need to do quite a bit  
>>> of peeking under the OakTextView (TextMate's custom TextView)'s  
>>> skirt to sync the WYSIWYG editing changes back to the textmate  
>>> main editor window. The plugin would likely be quite brittle in  
>>> the face of TM updates.
>>>
>>> This is a reason I hope Allan will find time to add a more  
>>> complete TM Plugin api... with more hooks that will be stable in  
>>> future releases... I'm sure Allan realizes this is needed...  
>>> considering there's been so few plugins to this point, he prolly  
>>> figures he has more important priorities.
>>>
>>> If you would be interested in these features speak up... it would  
>>> be a big job, but it might be a fun plugin project to tackle.
>>>
>>> Todd Ditchendorf
>>>
>>> Scandalous Software - Mac XML Developer Tools
>>> http://scan.dalo.us
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2007, at 1:11 PM, Greg Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the feedback. I'm not concerned with it's visual  
>>>> preview of HTML files. skEdit is also a text editor (also has a  
>>>> preview function for HTML files, for what it's worth), but  
>>>> includes a very nice and very simple site manager window. That's  
>>>> what I was getting at.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 17, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Kai Janson (kaijanson@) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Greg,
>>>>>
>>>>> TextMate is a text editor as the name implies but ... it has a  
>>>>> rudimentary preview function for HTML files ... not too shabby...
>>>>>
>>>>> --Kai
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 17, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Greg Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does TextMate have a Site Manager window, like Dreamweaver or  
>>>>>> skEdit for one-point access to everything?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
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