[TxMt] PHPCodeCompletion v 1.0b5 available (b15 supported now)

Sam Andrews sam at samandrews.com
Wed Jul 27 10:18:38 UTC 2005

eep. you sound a little defensive there, mats - i do hope i didn't come across 
as overly critical.

for the record, i exclusively use tm to code on a daily basis and i'm a fully 
paid-up member from quite a while back! :D

anyway - i just get the slight feeling that it's getting a bit difficult to tie 
down all the disparate functionality of tm. when i get evangelical about it now, 
i'm meeting much more resistance than i did before - the people i've tried to 
switch on want to see reasonably mature documentation and the addition of gui 
for several key parts of the app (not least snippets and commands).

all in good humour,

Mats Persson wrote:
> On 27 Jul 2005, at 10:26, Sam Andrews wrote:
>> this looks great, but there seem to be a whole slew of new key- combos 
>> to learn to access these functions.  in most ides and text  editors 
>> i've used that offer this functonality most of it is  usually 
>> transparent - a list of functions would appear to cycle  through 
>> without having to press anything (you'd expect EXC to hide  the list). 
>> to select the function you'd expect to press Tab or  Return. Likewise 
>> you'd expect the tooltip for a completed function  name to appear 
>> automatically when the caret is inside the function  name.
>> i don't know if it is a limitation of how we can currently mod  
>> textmate, but this sort of behaviour would be far preferable to  
>> hitting keys left right and center - it seems to be at odds with  the 
>> general apple ease-of-use.
> First of all the PHPCC is NOT a native implementation of Textmate,  but 
> rather a proof-of-concept implementation of something that I and  others 
> would like to see in the app.  As a 'result' (??) of the  PHPCC, Alan 
> began looking at this himself, but we have not yet seen  the TM 
> implementation of this, although I believe the new "Paste from  History" 
> dropdown menu is part of it in some way.
> Secondly, yes, the implementation would ideally be something like  what 
> you describe above, and I'm fairly sure it will be one day when  Allan 
> has had the time to implement it. In the meantime, this works,  even if 
> it's a bit clunky and un-sophisticated.
> Thirdly, although I'm not an expert of all other text editors or  IDE's, 
> I believe that TM is rather unique in it's ability to let  users create 
> such complex things as this on their own. Don't forget  that TM is less 
> than one year old, is developed by one single person,  and has improved 
> enormously during that time. It's easy for us all to  have expectations, 
> but it's damn hard work to cater for all those  expectations, and I 
> think Allan has done a brilliant job of it, even  though he does not 
> always agree with every suggestion put forward.
> Kind regards,
> Mats
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