thanks, I'm making a little headway figuring this out. I think you're right that Allan has not implemented all of the NSResponder's methods. And I'm really in a bind with this because it appears that passing events will not work in all cases (not to mention that it's kinda hacky). I can solve this problem in one of two ways Preferred: Figure out where those methods are implemented. Since somehow when you press command - delete, it deletes to the end of the line. Yet grepping for this method doesn't find it. Trying to avoid: Implement all of them myself. And I have no idea how to implement them myself...yet. pointing me in the right direction on either one would be great. kirt P.S. I tried sendign the message to the first responder but that did not work either. <div>On 1/7/07, Rob Rix <<a href="mailto:rix.rob@gmail.com">rix.rob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> "nil" as the sender should work; it's _generally_ optional, being used mainly for connecting user interface elements together that might conceivably need to take some hints from the invoking element. If nil won't do it, self ought to. Also, when you see things like below, with selectors not being recognized, it is possible that Allan hasn't overridden NSResponder's default implementation, which simply raises a "selector not recognized" exception. The other thing to note is that you're sending to OakWindow here; I'm not clear enough on the operation of the responder chain to say for sure, but you might want to send these messages not to the window instance but to the window's first responder: [[window firstResponder] moveDown: nil]; // or, as noted, "self" if nil doesn't work. But it ought to. Rob Rix On 7-Jan-07, at 2:30 PM, Kirt Fitzpatrick wrote: > I should prefix this by mentioning that this is my first foray into > Objective-C. Rob Rix got me started by pointing me to the > NSResponder class and telling me about the class-dump script. But > now that I am trying to call the window methods directly I do not > know what to pass it as the sender argument. > > NSResponder > - (void)moveDown:(id)sender > > I am getting this in the error log. > > > 2007-01-07 11:24:12.133 TextMate[2053] *** -[OakWindow moveDown:]: > selector not recognized [self = 0x1645140] > 2007-01-07 11:24: 12.134 TextMate[2053] sendEvent: Caught > NSInvalidArgumentException: *** -[OakWindow moveDown:]: selector > not recognized [self = 0x1645140] > > > > kirt > _______________________________________________ > textmate-plugins mailing list > <a href="mailto:textmate-plugins@lists.macromates.com"> textmate-plugins@lists.macromates.com</a> > <a href="http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins">http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins</a> _______________________________________________ textmate-plugins mailing list <a href="mailto:textmate-plugins@lists.macromates.com">textmate-plugins@lists.macromates.com</a> <a href="http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins">http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins </a> </blockquote></div>