<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><DIV>On Feb 16, 2007, at 3:02 PM, William D. Neumann wrote:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Thomas Aylott (subtleGradient) wrote:</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">framework is just too vague.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Having OpenGL in the same category as RubyOnRails is just silly.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">There are enough web frameworks to justify another main category.</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">web framework<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>-- extra/more specific web related junk (Rails, Django, Prototype, jQuery, …)</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">But isn't the point of tags to not overly specify the classification of something?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Isn't it more appropriate to tag rails with both framework and web, and if the user wants to narrow things they con specify that they want web + framework (+ ruby/python/smalltalk/whatever)?</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">William D. Neumann</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>If we're actually going to be implementing a tags system, then obviously yes.<DIV>afaik we were going to do the tags for future use and only actually implement a single tag as a category in the actual TextMate UI.<BR><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>If so, then lumping rails and jquery in with framework is a bad idea.</DIV><DIV>Lumping them into the web "category" would be best.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Ideally we'd implement a better UI in the app.</DIV><DIV>Where you can choose web, and then add on any of the web related frameworks.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I was planning something like that affect for bundleforge and the new getbundles stuff.</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV>thomas Aylott — <B>subtleGradient </B>— CrazyEgg — sixteenColors</DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>